Which gloves don't leave fingerprints?

Fingerprints, can you "destroy" them?

Fingerprints, can you "destroy" them?

04/15/2010 at 4:54 pm
Hello :)
A short time ago I looked at Medical Detectives and was more or less surprised at the means with which forensics can work.
It struck me that there were always traces of the hands found.
No matter whether the perpetrator was wearing gloves or not.

It is clear that when gloves are not used, the fingerprints can be seen.
Since every person has a unique fingerprint, this can be clear evidence to arrest the possible murderer (or something else).

But as soon as the perpetrator uses gloves, traces of it are discovered and it may be possible to convict him that way.

I've been asking myself the question for days:
How could a perpetrator perfectly "hide" his fingerprints or any traces of his hands that make him unique?

I don't mean things like burn or mutilate your fingertips, but other ways. Because that would logically make no sense either.

I'm looking forward to your answers.

And no, the perfect crime is not to be planned here!


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04/15/2010 at 4:58 pm
@shurly
shurly wrote:But as soon as the perpetrator uses gloves, traces of it are discovered
This is new to me, I've never heard of it. How is a fingerprint supposed to be created if the finder is covered by a glove?


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April 15, 2010 at 5:00 p.m.
That only works if you find the gloves ... then you can sometimes make sure of some on the inside


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April 15, 2010 at 5:00 p.m.
@onuba
I didn't mean that the fingerprint was found, but that traces of the glove were found and things that were still attached to it.


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04/15/2010 at 5:01 pm
if you cut off your fingertips the problem is solved ... (but I also got it from a movie ... I think it was "seven")


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04/15/2010 at 5:03 pm
But as soon as the perpetrator uses gloves, traces of it are discovered and it may be possible to convict him that way.


JYes, but not because of his fingerprints, but because of the fabric of the gloves.
If you destroy the gloves after the crime, it will be difficult to convict him.
In any case, I don't know that you can see fingerprints while wearing gloves.


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04/15/2010 at 5:03 pm
@insideman
insideman wrote:then you can sometimes ensure some on the inside
Not yours, right?

You mean something like flakes of skin, in that direction, but no fingerprints.

@shurly
Well, if I wear gloves and I leave a print at the scene, what use is it to investigators? Great, a glove print .... and ???
In addition, a print does not stick everywhere ...


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04/15/2010 at 5:04 pm
@onuba


No fingerprints too ..... I saw that there was also someone so stupid and used these transparent gloves .... and left them at the crime scene


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04/15/2010 at 5:04 pm
Yes it was "seven" : D
But I think he had only cut off the skin layer and I think even underneath you can still see a few details of the fingerprint.
In addition, DNA or traces of sweat of the perpetrator can then be found, so that's not the solution either.

I had the idea that you could cover your hand with scotch tape : D
No sweat and no fingerprints.
But I think there is something here that I haven't thought of ...

And that's what I'm so interested in ..
shurly wrote:How could a perpetrator perfectly "hide" his fingerprints or any traces of his hands that make him unique?



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04/15/2010 at 5:08 pm
onuba wrote:if I wear gloves and I leave a print on the scene, what use is it to investigators? Great, a glove print .... and ???
Various material residues from the glove can adhere to the print, possibly even sweat. If the investigators are lucky, there might even still be something stuck to it, such as grass debris or the like. There are hundreds of options.


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04/15/2010 at 5:09 pm
In order not to leave any traces at all, you would have to go to an absolutely sterile one
Full body suit that also covers your entire face and you, if possible
would have to breathe through an oxygen bottle and somehow filter the exhaled air perfectly.

Furthermore, the suit should not leave any traces at all, i.e. lint or other
tiny threads. So if possible made of rubber : D

Conclusion: Slip into a rubber astronaut suit, ventilate yourself with one
Oxygen bottle and filter the air you exhale and off you go the murder xD

But it is relatively difficult to approach a person in such a suit because then you are a
are quite an eye-catcher and the rubber probably squeaks nicely too.

There are ways of committing a "crime" without such a suit and with a high level
Probability of not getting caught. But think it's a bit stupid about you here
perfect fictional murder to discuss ..!

Kind regards

Ask & Embla

° doesn't kill people mkay? °


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04/15/2010 at 5:11 pm
@onuba


I think she means more if the glove has already been used and one can therefore infer the perpetrator.

The smallest particles of paint, wood shavings, ect ... the perpetrator is usually to be found in the vicinity of the victim ..... then an explanation is not far.

In general, the thread is wrongly named, I think that one could very well and a lot discuss the entire forensic science ... not just about fingerprints.

A very interesting subject


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04/15/2010 at 5:12 pm
@shurly
Use common gloves, work cleanly, dispose of gloves afterwards, d. H. destroy.
I want 10% of the loot. : D


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04/15/2010 at 5:12 pm
@shurly
shurly wrote:Various material residues from the glove can adhere to the print, possibly even sweat.
The sweat is IM glove and not on the print.

@insideman
insideman wrote:No fingerprints too ..... I saw that there was also someone so stupid and used these transparent gloves .... and left them at the crime scene
Probably those latex things. But even then I would be skeptical, the trace blurs when you move out.

Searching for clues is unfortunately not as easy as on TV. It would be nice for the police.


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04/15/2010 at 5:14 pm
@insideman
insideman wrote:I think she means more if the glove has already been used and one can therefore infer the perpetrator.

The smallest particles of paint, wood shavings, ect ... the perpetrator is usually to be found in the vicinity of the victim ..... then an explanation is not far.

In general, the thread is wrongly named, think that one could very well and a lot discuss the entire forensic science ... not just about fingerprints.
You're right. But what we are talking about here is "fingerprints" and not any other residue. In addition, the investigators would also have to have said glove.

I also think the title is wrong when it comes to more than fingerprints.


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April 15, 2010 at 5:15 pm
@onuba


I think the autopsy and medical cases are taken from reality.

Have already looked up div cases of it on the Internet and the story was identical. That is something different from CSI ... even if it partly runs on the same channel


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04/15/2010 at 5:18 pm
Ohh .. think I missed the topic somehow ^^

But even if you don't leave fingerprints, you're contaminating every place in that
you find yourself with your DNA e.g. skin cells, tiny droplets of saliva, hair, etc.

But you don't have to take any precautions if you haven't already been convicted.
The fingerprints are not in any database and there is also (still) a DNA citizen list
Not. But if it comes to saliva in your city, you are just unlucky ^^

Kind regards

Ask & Embla

° I'm a bit stupid ^^ °


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04/15/2010 at 5:22 pm
And when the DNA testers use contaminated material, whole Soko hordes hunt "phantom killers", as they did not long ago. CHICKER!


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04/15/2010 at 5:22 pm
@insideman
I was there "live" once. In our shop they were broken into. The forensics officer was a friend of ours and also a customer of ours. So I was a little closer than allowed.
Was very interesting. He explained a few things to me, such as that the boys didn't wear gloves and that there were also a lot of prints. Unfortunately, these were very difficult to secure because almost all of them were on wood. Only the one on the window grille (black lacquered metal rods) could be secured.

It's not that easy, although I have to say that the case was a few years ago and has improved a lot since then.

but definitely an interesting topic.


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04/15/2010 at 5:23 pm
askembla wrote: But you don't have to take any precautions if you haven't already been convicted.
So the fingerprints are not in any database and there is also a DNA citizen list (still)
Not. But if it comes to saliva in your city, you are just unlucky ^^
But as I said, in most cases the killer can be found in the vicinity of the victim and there is no getting around a routine check.

You can refuse this ... but then you will probably have a van parked in front of your house every day with a few antennas on the roof : D


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04/15/2010 at 5:25 pm
@onuba


Yes, the only question is always whether all possibilities are exhausted in each case.

Something like that also costs money ..... Reconstructing a floppy disk cost 1 million dollars in one case .... you won't do that when it comes to mini theft.
Same with fingerprints. When the butcher's in the village is broken into, the same team does not come as when the 45 whore is found murdered in California within 5 days


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