Why should I invest in REME coins

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Sleepless
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Beginners need help!

Contribution from Sleepless » 29.01.2010, 13:54

Hello from Dresden,

I'm new here and my name is René and I'm 28 years old / young.
I'm looking for a lot of tips from old hands who can share their experiences with me and maybe help me a bit.

I might want to invest in silver and gold, but I have absolutely no idea about it.
At the moment I have almost 1200 euros in “UniEuroAktien” funds on the side, and I would also like to invest another 5000 - 10000 euros for a longer period of time.

My idea was also to invest in the points below:
UniEuroAktien - Fund
Savings plan with 2.25% interest rate after 5 years
Silver and Gold

Today I tend more towards silver and gold, because in my opinion it is raw materials that promise profit in the future, the industry needs a lot of silver and gold in the manufacture of electronic items, as far as I know, which is of course booming and causing the price of raw materials to rise steadily. !


My questions to you:
1) From what amount is it worth investing in silver and gold, starting capital max. 10,000 euros?
2) Invest in higher-priced coins or bars, ask why?
3) Invest in smaller portions, i.e. in ounces, or do you prefer to invest in a large piece?
4) When is it best to buy and where is it cheapest?
5) Are there any resale fees like stocks and funds?


Your very, many stupid questions ..
But I think I can find some helpful answers here



Thank you very much!


Greeting,
René

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Contribution from moderator » 29.01.2010, 14:11

Hello sleepless,

First of all, welcome here to the Silver Forum.

Perhaps some of your questions could result from the
Clarify the FAQ for precious metals on Gold.de, which one was set up especially for this.

greetings Mod.
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Sleepless
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Contribution from Sleepless » 30.01.2010, 16:47

First of all, thank you very much for the great link, it has already helped me a lot.

I would first want to invest around 4000-5000 euros in silver and gold in coins. What I am still very unsure about is .. in what kind of coins you should invest and in what oz amount / size?

The 1 KG silver coin is z. B. calculated on the ounce already significantly cheaper in price than the small ones, now the question of what to buy and in what quantities?

What can be resold better and more profitably?


How would you sensibly invest the money available here?




Greeting,
René

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newbie

Contribution from san agustin » 30.01.2010, 17:03



the most important thing HERE is first of all:
do not reveal too much of your considerations / sums of money / investments

anonymity is especially important in the / EM sector

the mix makes it
if you are only focusing on 1 kg of silver coins, you should also consider:
if the silver price doubles or triples, then the resale value is double or triple higher and may put off buyers.

I think starting with 1 oz standards at the beginning is the right step, e.g. maple, american eagle, phili etc.

everything else, lunars with a collector's surcharge, you will gain your own experience in the course of time and develop a sure instinct

just don't rush anything and "put everything-on-one-card"

have fun
I want to stay true to my line and my view of a humane and respectful relationship in this country and counteract any kind of discrimination, therefore: EM trade with the following people is not desired: the users who are affected know it and that's enough ....

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Re: newbie

Contribution from san agustin » 30.01.2010, 17:05

san agustin wrote:smilie_36

the most important thing HERE is first of all:
do not reveal too much of your considerations / sums of money / investments

anonymity is especially important in the / EM sector

the mix makes it
if you are only focusing on 1 kg of silver coins, you should also consider:
if the silver price doubles or triples, then the resale value is double or triple higher and may put off buyers.

I think starting with 1 oz standards at the beginning is the right step, e.g. maple, american eagle, phili etc.

everything else, lunars with a collector's surcharge, you will gain your own experience in the course of time and develop a sure instinct

just don't rush anything and "put everything-on-one-card"

have fun


something else:

you will surely get around 10-15 different answers, as everyone has developed a different strategy and sets priorities.

In the end you have to decide for yourself!
I want to stay true to my line and my view of a humane and respectful relationship in this country and counteract any kind of discrimination, therefore: EM trading with the following people is not welcome: the users who are affected know it and that's enough ....

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Contribution from The bear » 30.01.2010, 17:08

Hi René,
first of all welcome!
It is difficult to tell yourself exactly: do this or do this!
A lot has to do with opinions and personal theories and with FAITH.

Roughly speaking, I would say that the 1KG parts tend to fall into the collector's area.
1oz are definitely one of them. You have to decide for yourself whether you tend towards pure investment coins (Phillis, MPs, Libertads) or more towards collector coins (Austr. Lunare, Pandas, Koalas). Both have advantages and disadvantages.

Buy a few pounds. The rest in common ounces.

However, this is only my opinion!
Maybe someone else will recommend something else to you.
I only know what I think I know, after all.
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Re: newbie

Contribution from Sunny weather » 30.01.2010, 17:15

san agustin wrote: anonymity is especially important in the / EM sector


It's true - but here we play a fictional what-if situation

Let's say € 5000. And I just want to invest / hedge.
The distribution on Au / Ag is simply 50:50.
And I have a buyer (bank / coin dealer) nearby.

Then I would buy 3 Krugerrands or 15 souvereigns as Au share.

In Ag I would buy kilos of the rest - cheapest kind - for example. Cook.
If he wants to speculate a little - then also current kilos, for example. Tiger.

that's it

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Contribution from sweetheart » 30.01.2010, 17:33

Definitely Somalia, there is at Emporium (almost the cheapest investment coin ever).

I only wrote to annoy 1000's fine; but is not meant to be evil.

My tip: Take a look at a dealer who has a larger selection of silver coins and order one or two pieces of the smaller sizes (let's say up to 5oz) from 2009 and 2010 (keep your fingers off the 2010 kiwi for the time being). Perhaps you will then find your personal favorite. For the rest you buy gold (from 1/10 to 1 / 4oz and up).

No one can answer the question of which coin will be the future hit. The fact is, of course, that coins with a smaller mintage have a higher potential (with the same silver price) than those with a higher mintage (the so-called investment coins such as Eagle, Maple, Philharmonic and of course Somalia (here the spirits argue whether this is a coin at all, but more beautiful than the SilberPhil anyway - mM)).
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Contribution from Silver swab » 30.01.2010, 18:45

Hello insomniac

Lunars go well as an intermediate between bullion and collector's coin. Just order a small assortment and then decide based on your taste. There are great collector coins in very small editions with huge price increases - if you can get rid of them. First of all, carefully start small - but not too small with gold because at 1/10 oz you have quite a premium and shockingly little gold for the money - 1/4 oz is already quite good and will also be gladly taken for resale later.
In the case of special investments, ask again here. However, here in the forum 95.23% only have 2 Andorras!


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Re: beginners need help!

Contribution from Mauritius » 30.01.2010, 23:44

Schlaflos wrote:Hello from Dresden,



I might want to invest in silver and gold, but I have absolutely no idea about it.


Do you even know why you want to invest in silver and gold?

Insurance or Speculation?

only when this question is answered can any meaningful tips be given.

kookaburra1
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Contribution from kookaburra1 » 31.01.2010, 10:55

@Sleepless

Hi first!

Basically, it is risky to gamble with EM.

Most of the people here in the forum want to make a pension plan with EM and /
or arm yourself against inflation or whatever else can come.
Of course there are many collectors here who collect for the above reasons and also as a hobby.

My opinion on kilo coins (lunar series) is that you buy those with a VAT rate of 7%, silver bars with 19%
Fairytale tax.

If you are willing to spend a lot of money on a 1 kg silver bar,
he also buys a 1 kg coin.
In addition to the lower VAT, you also have the coins
Increased value as a collector's coin.

But first lay the foundation with e.g. Maple Leaf 1 ounce silver coins made of 9999 silver. (100 pieces) at the moment about 1450 euros.

And an ounce of gold. Here for example. from the lunar series, think about the collector's value (approx. 829 euros)


And then.....
After all, there can only be one!

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Contribution from Sleepless » 31.01.2010, 17:45

Hello to each other,

First of all, thank you very much for your many opinions and tips!

I am going into a little more detail about my plan, I have one or two euros available here and I want to invest it as well as possible, i.e. make one or two euros profit in a few years. Personally, I would not really see it as a pension plan, I would like to speculate for a longer period of time and above all anonymously and with a high degree of certainty about stability! I'm not a collector of coins, stamps, etc., but I have to honestly admit that I really like some coins! The surcharge I pay for buying a z. B. would have to provide 1oz silver coin, would be about 25% surcharge of the current EM rate + proportional shipping costs! This must first be generated again, the other way around, in contrast to bars, a collective value surcharge could also be added.

Now my question to you is, is it more collecting, crisis protection or a real alternative to stocks, funds and savings accounts?
An alternative would be a savings account with an average of 2.25% interest ..

What I could see from your many responses and the forum is the following:
1) Would you rather invest in many small 1oz coins (= higher ounce price) than in the larger coins from 10oz to 1 kg (= lowest ounce price)?
Example:
100x 1oz
20x 10oz
4x 1KG

2) Don't just bet on silver but also on gold (50:50), with gold from ¼ oz upwards, right?

3) For coins, bet on the “Lunar Series”, “Maple Leaf”, “Koala”, “Kookaburra” and “Vienna Philharmonic”, and is the higher purchase price of the 2009 models advisable?

4) Which coins are there in small mintage?



Thanks in advance!



Best wishes,
René


PS:
@ Sweetheart
Why should you stay away from the "kiwi"?
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sweetheart
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Contribution from sweetheart » 31.01.2010, 18:45

Schlaflos wrote:
4) Which coins are there in small mintage?
Thanks in advance!

PS:
@ Sweetheart
Why should you stay away from the "kiwi"?


Not from the kiwis, but from the 2010 kiwi. It's just outrageously expensive.

Regarding point 4: Kiwi, Kakapo
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Bag mouse76
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Contribution from Bag mouse76 » 31.01.2010, 22:05

Hi,

The one with the gold, from a certain size, I find it plausible, but I still got myself small sheets of paper and don't necessarily find this completely wrong. Of course, I collect more silver and now and then also look at the collector's value and beauty, in addition to the basic stock, but without any gold, I didn't find it so tingly and to save 2-3 months in order to then not be able to afford an ounce either so great given the economic situation.


I can still hackle the 1 and 2 gram Blattis and take something else if they shouldn't bring anything, but better first than garnix or just the 4 gram coin.

In 3 weeks I want to top up silver again, then quarter or half an ounce of gold, the month after that silver again - that's what I thought to myself.

Best regards BM


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